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WHAT IF no 24: KIRKDALE GHOST SIGNS


Kirkdale has two distinct areas separated by a long residential area. Many people don’t know the top part is still part of Kirkdale.

Could this grey wall could be put to better use?

KIRKDALE JH SKINCARE before

But what if:

KIRKDALE JH SKINCARE after

Well, we did. The above is a visual. This is the finished sign:

KIRKDALE SIGN 2 (JH)

And here is the signwriter, Peter O’Connor lovingly applying his craft.
PETER OCONNOR SIGNWRITING KIRKDALE

The full story can be found HERE.

Local reaction to the signs can be found HERE.

WHAT IF NO 21: BARAKAH


We were approached by the owners of Barakah after giving a talk at a local traders group to look at their shop front.

BARAKAH BEFORE & AFTER

We got one of their mailers through the door a long time ago and were seduced by it’s uncoated paper and smart black and orange livery. It felt quality, something rather different to the usual glossy, over complicated rubbish that falls through our letterbox. We kept the menu and when the food turned up we were pleased to note that the quality of the food matched the expectation.

It was some while later when we realised that the place we were ordering from was a 5 minute walk from our front door and looked nothing like any of the marketing material that they were sending out.

So the job here would be simple. Make their shop look like the brand they send out to thousands of homes in the area and make it reflect the surprisingly good quality food that they send out. So we have used their logo and colours.

A bit of black paint, a re-skinned light box in black and orange and some new window vinyls and black brick tiles to tidy up the stall risers can make a huge difference.

Before it looked tired and didn’t match their brand. But What If…

If you haven’t tried them, give them a go: http://www.barakah-se26.co.uk

UPDATE: you can read more feedback here on the SYDENHAM FORUM.

WHAT IF NO 20: STATION APPROACH


STATION APPROACH

Originally there would have been some painted signs on this building. When I first came to Sydenham I didn’t notice the station was down there. There are no signs to announce that you are in Sydenham.

We love the idea of art being relevant or functional in some way.

STATION APPROACH_2 panel

STATION APPROACH_2

Sydenham is getting an expensive makeover of station approach and On The Hoof, our new rather fab station cafe with seating outside. It makes sense to celebrate this in some way. It also makes sense to advertise Sydenham’s great transport links now we have the Overground.

We have had this idea for a while now and presented it to the SEE3 group as funding is available for signage in Sydenham, Forest Hill & Kirkdale. We are also advisors for the GLA (Greater London Authority) who are supplying the funding (we are designing this for free, as all the ‘What If Sydenham’ projects have been, this costs US money!).

We also included a visual for Property World’s ‘panel’. We normally approach business before we do this sort of thing, but this time we thought we would do it the other way around (we hope they don’t mind, but it gets them some free feedback). Property World are very active locally and support out local arts festival and the ‘Arts in The Park’ in Home Park (which we also support with free design work). We understand that PW actually rent the advertising space but for ages just had one of their plastic ‘LET’ boards in there for a property that was no longer on the market. They kindly took it down after we posted on a local forum kindly asking them to remove it, which they did (we gave them a bottle of champagne as a thank you) which shows that they are very community minded.

The idea is that we would create a retro version of their logo so it looks like it’s been there for ages. This makes them feel part of Sydenham and have been long established in the area, which is true. We did something similar in North Harrow where we designed a logo for the area but then created a retro version of it, which we painted on the side of a building.

NORTH HARROW LOGO
The logo

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The Ghost Sign

So their current logo looks like this:
PROPERTY WORLD

On the building the retro version would look like this:
PROPERTY WORLD SIGN

We could get it distressed (as with the visual) or add the dat the business was started. we don’t think it should be a sponsored ‘Welcome to Sydenham sign’, they can be a bit tacky and are not what would have been on the building originally.

We are still waiting to hear from SEE3 on how the money will be spent but Cllr Chris Best and the team were really positive about it. Hopefully, as SEE3 and Especially Cllr Best have championed art in Sydenham in recent years with her backing to the Mosaic on the Naborhood Centre and the new Street art festival, we hope that this will get the go ahead too.

You can read the feedback and comments from the Sydenham Forum here.

WHAT IF SYDENHAM HAD A CINEMA


Image of the amazing Electric Cinema in Portabello Road


The Film Mill have posted on the Sydenham Forum about bringing a community based Cinema to Sydenham.

What a brilliant idea. See more here.

They have a survey, please have a look.

What do you think? And where would it be?

What did you say on the survey?

WHAT IF 18: EMPTY PUBS


Lots of people hated the gramatical error in the name of this pub. We found it rather charming. Which isn’t what can be said about the pub or the building which wasn’t the nicest place to be. Which may be one reason why it’s now closed.

But thats’ still no excuse to leave it in a state. It’s not making the building any more attractive.
It currently looks like this:

But What If:

Here is a close up.

If we get to do it we will work on it a little more and make it look like everyone is enjoying a drink.

This is a simple ‘street art project’, the wooden windows would be stencilled with the famous faces as if they are enjoying a drink in the bar.

More to come…

WHAT IF SYDENHAM


Once upon a time shops would look proud of themselves. Sydenham road was actually beautiful. Shop owners would stand outside of their shop with a look of pride on their faces. Goods would be beautifully displayed. Signwriters, signmakers and glass cutters (these were generally from the area, all had their own styles and would help give an area it’s own visual identity) would make the most humble of businesses beautiful.

These shops aren’t exclusive boutiques. They simply believed in enticing people into the shop by making their store as attractive as possible. They had pride in their appearance. Even a humble dairy or fruit and vegetable shop. They were beautiful.

Some shops were so proud of where they were, they put the name of the road on the shop. We did this with Billings. Most shops these days don’t even put the number on the shop front. We think they should by law.

Today Sydenham Road is pretty shabby. Compare the above with the same road today:


Much as we love Mustis above (which is what everyone calls the store) the signs hasn’t changed for years, it pre-dates the current owners (Musti is one of the friendliest shore owners in Sydenham). Garam Masala have put tiles more suited to a toilt on the outside which is totally out of keeping with the building.

Many people say this is a great dry cleaners. We use another one, despite this one being cheaper and nearer to us. It doesn’t look like it will do a good job. For months they actually had a mouldy wedding dress in the window. IN 4 years they haven’t cleaned the shop front or cleared the tags off the roller shutters.

If you take over a business, invest in new signage. Spraypainting over the old name is not going to win you any customers! It makes me question how they treat the food if they think this is acceptable.

The sign on the right broke one windy night over 2 years ago. They still haven’t fixed it. I’m not sure what that says about what they sell or customer service. To us it makes the shop look like it doesn’t care. It’s interesting historically though!

The sad fact is that it’s cheaper to repaint an original shop front than rip it out and install a new one. Quality signage and signwriting isn’t that expensive.

So shops in Sydenham currently look like this:

But what if:

Same shops, same shop fronts, same prices. Just new signage, awnings and a bit of paint.

Which one would you rather shop in? Which one gives you a better impression of the high street, customer service and quality?

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THE WAY WE WERE


From Lewisham Libraries archives

We love old pictures of high streets.

The shop fronts were well designed and looked like they belonged to the building. Most shops had awnings. Typography and signage was well designed and crafted by people who worked long apprenticeships to learn their trade. Often these people lived locally and this helped to give an area a particular look, a local distinction.

These days many shop fronts are installed without much thought to the building or the locality with the view that standing out, being different and shouting as loudly as possible is a good thing.

It isn’t.

If everyone shouts you can’t hear anything.

We think we have something to learn from the past. That doesn’t mean make something look old. We mean make something look well designed. Fit for the area. Make the area look distinctive in it’s own right rather than making it look like it could be from anywhere. High streets are a supermarket under many roofs. They should feel cohesive as a whole rather than individual shops fighting one another. They need to work together.

Designed by Good People started the What If Project a few years ago. It’s helped raise the profile of shop front design and we are embarking on our second actual makeover soon. Hopefully the next chapter is about to open. Hopefully there will be exciting times ahead. Hopefully we can make a difference.

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WHAT IF no 15: HOUSE OF LINENS


We popped into ‘House of Linens’ a little while ago to get a few bits and pieces (we are going eco and are now fixing old clothes and buying ‘vintage’) and met the very friendly owner. He was talking about Billings so we told them about the What if Sydenham Project.

He looked all excited and rushed us outside to look at this sign which he wants to redo. We have been really busy and the few times we have had chance to pop by we haven’t seen him in the store. So before we show them what we have come up with I thought it best to get some feedback on this.

So here goes:

What if:

OPTION 1a

More sophistcated colours, the ‘stitched’ logo is on a raised enamel panel (about £400) on a wooden background with Vinyl applied lettering in gloss to make them look as if they are hand painted. The security grill and door etc have been painted to match the sign.

We aren’t sure when the business started trading in Sydenham but it’s been here a long time and the owners wanted to communicate this, hence the ‘trading since ’92’.

OPTION 1b

Or we could add an awning and raise the sign above. The awning costs about £1300.

OPTION 2

The sign is based on a fabric swatch with the turned corner in a shocking pink to catch the eye. Again the design is retro with a twist and uses more sophisticated colours.

So which one feels the most like a small, family run, haberdashery that has been trading locally for many many years?

If you comment please say if you use House of Linens.

For more feedback visit the Sydenham Forum or VIrtual Norwood.

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WHAT IF no14: FRESH & FRUITY


Fresh and Fruity are linked to Billings (What if No 13) as they are Amo’s parents. Infact without their help, and the help of Annabel and Tim from the Sydenham society Billings may never have happened.

Since then we have been incredibly busy and the What If Project has taken a back seat, despite lots of local businesses asking for their makeovers. Unfortunately we have to pay the bills as we fit these in when we can!

We have been promising this for a while, so I though I’d post it here, get some feedback before presenting onto them. It’s been a while in the making!

This is what the shop looks like now:

FRESH & FRUITY before


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WHAT IF no13: BILLINGS


BILLINGS is a new fishmonger and butchers arriving in the high street soon in the old shoe repair shop and keycutters . Hmmm, I never did understand why shoes and keys went together. Anyway…

This is what the shop looks like now.

But what if:


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WHAT NOT TO CALL YOUR BUSINESS!


This is a bit of Friday Fun.

I got this on an email from an architect friend.

A great example of what NOT to do to your shop fronts.

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GREENING THE NABOURHOOD CENTRE


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Just thought I’d throw this out there for comment. If the Nabourhood centre was covered in the green wall system it would cost between £450 to £600 per m2 (I’ve contacted some companies). I roughly estimate that the nabourhood centre is between 40-50m2 that needs covering. So it will cost between £18,000 to £30,000 to use the green wall system on the nabourhood centre. It reduces heat loss and helps keep buildings cook in the summer. It reduces noise. It’s VERY low maintenance. It stops graffiti. It doesn’t need painting. It encourages butterflies etc. It doesn’t damage the building. I know I’m going got get stick from some quarters which I’m fine with because of the Mosaic, which I disagree with (but I think Valerie has done an admirable job in bringing it to the stages of reality). I simply think it’s worth investigating an alternative. If we think it’s worth pursuing this I will. What do you think? Should I pursue it further?

WHAT IF no9: MUSTI’S PART DEUX


This is a sketch (the shapes and pig need refining but you get the idea) for Mustis new sign now that he has his new shop front. We we able to go inside the shop before it was renovated and it has the original ceiling roses from the original light fittings above the false ceiling and the original wooden floor that started in  the middle of the front window where the original door would have been. unfortunately the floor is now concreted over. It would have been great to have revealed the original features in the refit but hopefully they are untouched and safely covered by a new false ceiling.

We have looked at Musti’s before and it generated some interest (it’s how we got to meet the man himself, and what a nice guy he turned out to be).

So here is the latest…complete with pig.

BEFORE

Musti's, as it is today.

Musti's, as it is today.

But what if…

I drew the pig rather quickly, it's just a rough. Needs some polish...

I drew the pig rather quickly, it's just a rough. Needs some polish...

It is possible to put graphics on roller shutters. I’m not a huge fan of them normally.

So what do you think?

WIS.

Some good feedback for this one the Sydenham Forum:

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IF YOU LIKE THIS, PLEASE TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT!

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WHAT IF no8: OUR EMPTY SHOPS LOOKED LIKE THIS


Empty shops are a blight on any high street (although sales of window polish go up).

W.I.S. Thinks that owners of empty shops should be forced to ensure that they are presented in an acceptable way. It’s a great opportunity to have art displayed, local history, or as in the case of this ad, history AND an advertisement. Everyone seems to hate those triangular boards stuck above shops saying ‘shop to let’.

The old curtain shop currently looks like this:

SAD, DEPRESSING, BORING, UNLOVED

SAD, DEPRESSING, BORING, UNLOVED

So how can we take something that is a blight on the high street and turn it into something positive?

What if it looked like this:

POSITIVE, PRETTIER, UNIQUE TO THE AREA

POSITIVE, PRETTIER, UNIQUE TO THE AREA


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WHAT IF no7: LADY METROS BECOMES GIFT BOX


I don’t know much about this new store except it sells gifts.

I guess most people know very little about it as it doesn’t have a sign. When the shutters are shut it doesn’t even look like it’s a business.

This is what it currently looks like:

The shop without a face

The shop without a face

I presume that once this was once one shop. I think it would be wise to live in harmony with Desire next door and make the sign one colour. Otherwise it’s a bit like those houses that try too hard to be different from their neighbours and you get a drainpipe painted in two different colours.

One other pet hate of mine are roller shutters that completely cover the front of the shop. They make high streets look like prisons. But you can turn a negative into an advantage by painting it.

So a shop without a sign becomes giftbox…

And how it could look

And how it could look


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WHAT IF no6: KENTE COFFEE SHOP


Kente is a great little coffee shop in the high street. We are lucky that we now have a few good places to go (although I wish some were open late!).

When I posted the original Deli what if it caused quite a lot of debate which led to calls for Kente to change it’s sign.

This is what Kente looks like at the moment:

Kente before makeover.

Kente before makeover.

It’s blue and yellow signage look more appropriate for estate agents sign that sits above the shop.

Look inside Kente and you will find old travel posters like these:

TRAVELPOSTERS

The lights inside have an art deco feel to them.

So I’ve picked up on some of these visual cues with the type. Colours are warm and inviting golds and reds on a roasted brown background which are colours more associated with coffee. Look at coffee packaging and a majority of it uses browns, blacks, reds and golds/yellows.

The sign would be better on wood rather than the shiny plastic background currently used.

Which could look something like this:

Stage 1

Stage 1

Colours are adjusted (background of sign is very dark ‘roasted brown’), logo is gold with deep rich red-ish brown type for kente. Type is adapted from some type on old travel posters, hand drawn bespoke for this, it’s not just a font!
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WHAT IF no5: The HSBC became a Thai Restaurant


I don’t know about you, but I’m sick of seeing such a prominent building lay disused for so long.

I don’t know if its possible to open it as a food outlet. We have a few places to eat in the evening, but compared to some places it’ is a bit limited.

I love a good Thai, and generally I go to them in central London. The Thai restaurant near where I used to live in New Cross was incredibly busy, so what if this…

THE HSBC 2009

THE HSBC 2009

Becomes something like this…

THAIPADHSBCAFTER

One other thing, in the background you may notice the wall has an old advertising sign for Cobbs corner on it on the new picture. What if we could ‘recreate’ some of these old painted ad/murals around Sydenham for businesses past and/or present.

MORE FEEDBACK CAN BE FOUND ON THE SYDENHAM FORUM

WHAT IF no4: REGAL DOORS


Someone recently was asking about bike shops on the Sydenham Forum.

Cycling is on the increase and there are loads of cycle routes around here. Having been out on a bike recently I was amazed how many cyclists there are around here.

But Sydenham currently has no bike shop.

So what if…

The Empty Regal doors shop near Kent House road with it's unlovely sign.

The Empty Regal doors shop near Kent House road with it's unlovely sign.

Becomes

Then new shop after 1 hour 15 minutes design and visualizing.

Apologies for the rough visual!

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WHAT IF no3: MUSTI’S


The idea of these what if’s is to show what even a little bit of design can do. I set myself an hour max to do each one and will do one version at least with the same shop front.

So this is Musti’s turn.

I loved Musti’s.
I’m really looking forward to them reopening. But why oh why, as everyone calls it Musti’s, was the shop named the pound plus store? I always kept going in the wrong store!

So what if:

Musti's, as it is today.

Musti's, as it is today.

Becomes

The new version, same shop frontage, just a bit of paint, new awning and sign.

The new version, same shop frontage, just a bit of paint, new awning and sign.

The work on this includes painting the metal work and surround a really dark blue, a new awning and simple new signage on a flat painted (not plastic) wooden background. The shopfront is unchanged and I haven’t changed what is in the window display (they are still smoke damaged goods in the visual!).

One last thing, if the large sign was removed, I’m sure you would find the original signage underneath. With a little more investment and possibly new shopfront it could be really special and a real local treasure.

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