WHAT IF 19: EMPTY PUBS

This use to be a carpet shop.

Then, a number of years ago, it opened as the Pukka Bar, an upmarket indian restaurant. It had a refit that cost £250,000 but really opened in Sydenham about a year early before the gastro pub and cafes opened. It lasted 6 months (the place inside is vast). The interior refit is of a very high quality and remains. The pub that took over from the Pukka bar doesn’t.

We hope the interior will remain, but if the pub is going to be renovated or left, why leave it like this:

What if:

A simple printed hoarding. The door would be indicated by the dotted line.

Obviously this is a transferable design. Whoever is taking over the property can announce it on the stamp on the front of the box.

Have a look at the other What If’s on empty shops here:
WHAT IF 18
WHAT IF 17
WHAT IF 16

WHAT IF 17: EMPTY SHOPS

This is another idea for the empty buildings by Sydenham Station that currently look like this:

But what if:

The vending machines etc would be working which would add a bit of interaction to a building that hasn’t interacted with the public for years. The backboard would be made of planks, hidden doors could be made if access to the building is needed. The type is signwritten on the wood except the sign at the top which would be individually cut letters.

It could easily be adapted to other sites, to different types of shops and be a lot of fun.

See also the previous version

WHAT IF 16: EMPTY SHOPS

Years ago this place was Sydenham Station but it was knocked down them they moved the platform.

It currently looks like this:

One of the best shops in Sydenham is two doors away. The Kirkdale Bookshop.
What if:

Trumpet Blowing

Image from Creative Commons on Wikipedia.

The What If Sydenham project has gained a fair amount of exposure around the world since we started it a few years ago. Aside from the Sydenham Forum where we have posted all of the What If Projects, it’s appeared all over the internet.

Here are a few links.
Aside from a mention on the Guardians website,
the project has also appeared here:

THE WAY WE WERE

From Lewisham Libraries archives

We love old pictures of high streets.

The shop fronts were well designed and looked like they belonged to the building. Most shops had awnings. Typography and signage was well designed and crafted by people who worked long apprenticeships to learn their trade. Often these people lived locally and this helped to give an area a particular look, a local distinction.

These days many shop fronts are installed without much thought to the building or the locality with the view that standing out, being different and shouting as loudly as possible is a good thing.

It isn’t.

If everyone shouts you can’t hear anything.

We think we have something to learn from the past. That doesn’t mean make something look old. We mean make something look well designed. Fit for the area. Make the area look distinctive in it’s own right rather than making it look like it could be from anywhere. High streets are a supermarket under many roofs. They should feel cohesive as a whole rather than individual shops fighting one another. They need to work together.

Designed by Good People started the What If Project a few years ago. It’s helped raise the profile of shop front design and we are embarking on our second actual makeover soon. Hopefully the next chapter is about to open. Hopefully there will be exciting times ahead. Hopefully we can make a difference.

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WHAT IF no 15: HOUSE OF LINENS

We popped into ‘House of Linens’ a little while ago to get a few bits and pieces (we are going eco and are now fixing old clothes and buying ‘vintage’) and met the very friendly owner. He was talking about Billings so we told them about the What if Sydenham Project.

He looked all excited and rushed us outside to look at this sign which he wants to redo. We have been really busy and the few times we have had chance to pop by we haven’t seen him in the store. So before we show them what we have come up with I thought it best to get some feedback on this.

So here goes:

What if:

OPTION 1a

More sophistcated colours, the ‘stitched’ logo is on a raised enamel panel (about £400) on a wooden background with Vinyl applied lettering in gloss to make them look as if they are hand painted. The security grill and door etc have been painted to match the sign.

We aren’t sure when the business started trading in Sydenham but it’s been here a long time and the owners wanted to communicate this, hence the ‘trading since ’92′.

OPTION 1b

Or we could add an awning and raise the sign above. The awning costs about £1300.

OPTION 2

The sign is based on a fabric swatch with the turned corner in a shocking pink to catch the eye. Again the design is retro with a twist and uses more sophisticated colours.

So which one feels the most like a small, family run, haberdashery that has been trading locally for many many years?

If you comment please say if you use House of Linens.

For more feedback visit the Sydenham Forum or VIrtual Norwood.

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WHAT IF no14: FRESH & FRUITY

Fresh and Fruity are linked to Billings (What if No 13) as they are Amo’s parents. Infact without their help, and the help of Annabel and Tim from the Sydenham society Billings may never have happened.

Since then we have been incredibly busy and the What If Project has taken a back seat, despite lots of local businesses asking for their makeovers. Unfortunately we have to pay the bills as we fit these in when we can!

We have been promising this for a while, so I though I’d post it here, get some feedback before presenting onto them. It’s been a while in the making!

This is what the shop looks like now:

FRESH & FRUITY before

WHAT IF no12: THE CINEMA IN CRYSTAL PALACE…

This is what the cinema currently looks (we took a few liberties by photoshopping out the cars and people walking by). It’s a very busy road.

BEFORE:

BUT WHAT IF…

WHAT IF ILFRACOMBE

Anyway, we have been hard at work after being contacted by the North Devon Journal on a sister blog ‘What If Ilfracombe’.

www.whatifilfracombe.wordpress.com

Here is an example:

Before:

But what if:

LEWISHAM DO HAVE GUIDELINES FOR SHOP FRONTS

http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/Environment/Planning/PlanningPolicy/LocalDevelopmentFramework/ShopFrontDesignGuide.htm

And they are good!

WHAT NOT TO CALL YOUR BUSINESS!

This is a bit of Friday Fun.

I got this on an email from an architect friend.

A great example of what NOT to do to your shop fronts.

GREENING THE NABOURHOOD CENTRE

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/leenewham/avignon.jpg

Just thought I’d throw this out there for comment. If the Nabourhood centre was covered in the green wall system it would cost between £450 to £600 per m2 (I’ve contacted some companies). I roughly estimate that the nabourhood centre is between 40-50m2 that needs covering. So it will cost between £18,000 to £30,000 to use the green wall system on the nabourhood centre. It reduces heat loss and helps keep buildings cook in the summer. It reduces noise. It’s VERY low maintenance. It stops graffiti. It doesn’t need painting. It encourages butterflies etc. It doesn’t damage the building. I know I’m going got get stick from some quarters which I’m fine with because of the Mosaic, which I disagree with (but I think Valerie has done an admirable job in bringing it to the stages of reality). I simply think it’s worth investigating an alternative. If we think it’s worth pursuing this I will. What do you think? Should I pursue it further?

WHAT IF no9: MUSTI’S PART DEUX

This is a sketch (the shapes and pig need refining but you get the idea) for Mustis new sign now that he has his new shop front. We we able to go inside the shop before it was renovated and it has the original ceiling roses from the original light fittings above the false ceiling and the original wooden floor that started in  the middle of the front window where the original door would have been. unfortunately the floor is now concreted over. It would have been great to have revealed the original features in the refit but hopefully they are untouched and safely covered by a new false ceiling.

We have looked at Musti’s before and it generated some interest (it’s how we got to meet the man himself, and what a nice guy he turned out to be).

So here is the latest…complete with pig.

BEFORE

Musti's, as it is today.

But what if…

I drew the pig rather quickly, it's just a rough. Needs some polish...

It is possible to put graphics on roller shutters. I’m not a huge fan of them normally.

So what do you think?

WIS.

Some good feedback for this one the Sydenham Forum:

http://alturl.com/qufd

IF YOU LIKE THIS, PLEASE TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT!

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WHAT IF no8: OUR EMPTY SHOPS LOOKED LIKE THIS

Empty shops are a blight on any high street (although sales of window polish go up).

W.I.S. Thinks that owners of empty shops should be forced to ensure that they are presented in an acceptable way. It’s a great opportunity to have art displayed, local history, or as in the case of this ad, history AND an advertisement. Everyone seems to hate those triangular boards stuck above shops saying ‘shop to let’.

The old curtain shop currently looks like this:

SAD, DEPRESSING, BORING, UNLOVED

So how can we take something that is a blight on the high street and turn it into something positive?

What if it looked like this:

POSITIVE, PRETTIER, UNIQUE TO THE AREA

WHAT IF no7: LADY METROS BECOMES GIFT BOX

I don’t know much about this new store except it sells gifts. I guess most people know very little about it as it doesn’t have a sign. When the shutters are shut it doesn’t even look like it’s a business. This is what it currently looks like:

The shop without a face

I presume that once this was once one shop. I think it would be wise to live in harmony with Desire next door and make the sign one colour. Otherwise it’s a bit like those houses that try too hard to be different from their neighbours and you get a drainpipe painted in two different colours.

One other pet hate of mine are roller shutters that completely cover the front of the shop. They make high streets look like prisons. But you can turn a negative into an advantage by painting it.

So a shop without a sign becomes giftbox…

And how it could look

WHAT IF no6: KENTE COFFEE SHOP

Kente is a great little coffee shop in the high street. We are lucky that we now have a few good places to go (although I wish some were open late!).

When I posted the original Deli what if it caused quite a lot of debate which led to calls for Kente to change it’s sign.

This is what Kente looks like at the moment:

Kente before makeover.

It’s blue and yellow signage look more appropriate for estate agents sign that sits above the shop.

Look inside Kente and you will find old travel posters like these:

The lights inside have an art deco feel to them.

So I’ve picked up on some of these visual cues with the type. Colours are warm and inviting golds and reds on a roasted brown background which are colours more associated with coffee. Look at coffee packaging and a majority of it uses browns, blacks, reds and golds/yellows.

The sign would be better on wood rather than the shiny plastic background currently used.

Which could look something like this:

Stage 1

Colours are adjusted (background of sign is very dark ‘roasted brown’), logo is gold with deep rich red-ish brown type for kente. Type is adapted from some type on old travel posters, hand drawn bespoke for this, it’s not just a font!

WHAT IF no5: The HSBC became a Thai Restaurant

I don’t know about you, but I’m sick of seeing such a prominent building lay disused for so long.

I don’t know if its possible to open it as a food outlet. We have a few places to eat in the evening, but compared to some places it’ is a bit limited.

I love a good Thai, and generally I go to them in central London. The Thai restaurant near where I used to live in New Cross was incredibly busy, so what if this…

THE HSBC 2009

Becomes something like this…

One other thing, in the background you may notice the wall has an old advertising sign for Cobbs corner on it on the new picture. What if we could ‘recreate’ some of these old painted ad/murals around Sydenham for businesses past and/or present.

MORE FEEDBACK CAN BE FOUND ON THE SYDENHAM FORUM

WHAT IF no4: REGAL DOORS

Someone recently was asking about bike shops on the Sydenham Forum.

Cycling is on the increase and there are loads of cycle routes around here. Having been out on a bike recently I was amazed how many cyclists there are around here.

But Sydenham currently has no bike shop.

So what if…

The Empty Regal doors shop near Kent House road with it's unlovely sign.

Becomes

Apologies for the rough visual!

MORE FEEDBACK CAN BE FOUND HERE:

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WHAT IF no3: MUSTI’S

The idea of these what if’s is to show what even a little bit of design can do. I set myself an hour max to do each one and will do one version at least with the same shop front.

So this is Musti’s turn.

I loved Musti’s.
I’m really looking forward to them reopening. But why oh why, as everyone calls it Musti’s, was the shop named the pound plus store? I always kept going in the wrong store!

So what if:

Musti's, as it is today.

Becomes

The new version, same shop frontage, just a bit of paint, new awning and sign.

The work on this includes painting the metal work and surround a really dark blue, a new awning and simple new signage on a flat painted (not plastic) wooden background. The shopfront is unchanged and I haven’t changed what is in the window display (they are still smoke damaged goods in the visual!).

One last thing, if the large sign was removed, I’m sure you would find the original signage underneath. With a little more investment and possibly new shopfront it could be really special and a real local treasure.

MORE FEEDBACK CAN BE FOUND HERE:

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WHAT IF: no2 the chemists

Could the old Chemists one of the few remaining original shopfronts in Sydenham change from this:

Before

Into something like this:

A bit of photoshop and 35 minutes later

THIS HAS BEEN WIDELY DISCUSSED HERE AND IS NOW THE KENTE COFFEE SHOP WHICH IS EXCELLENT. THIS WILL BE ANOTHER WHAT IF:

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